‘Tubes’ Category

Testing VR (glow) tubes

©2011 Bob Putnak.

I am frequently asked how to test voltage regulator (VR) tubes, which are sometimes called “glow regulator” or “glow discharge” tubes.

Few tube testers test VR tubes, and most models that claim to test VR tubes do a worthless job at this task.

  • They use AC voltages instead of DC
  • the AC voltages are beyond spec
  • they offer no ability to monitor or control the operating current
  • they provide no ability to test at the minimum and maximum operating range of the tube
  • they provide no voltmeter to show the exact voltage drop across the tube.

(Hickok 123A cardmatic and 752 would be notable exceptions.)

Since the overwhelming majority of tube testers will not test a VR tube properly, we need an answer.  As a general observation, if a VR tube lights up, it is probably acceptable.  But, that’s not good enough, so how to test a VR tube?

1.  The best way to test a VR tube is to try it in the actual equipment, and measure the voltage drop across the VR tube’s anode and cathode.
2.  If the first option is not available, you need to create a real circuit and measure the voltage drop across the VR tube at the minimum and maximum operating current as documented in the datasheet.

The datasheet specifications that are most important for VR tubes are:

  • “dc operating voltage” or “average anode drop” — this is the voltage drop across the VR tube
  • dc operating current range — the minimum and maximum operating current for the VR tube to regulate properly
  • average DC starting voltage

Datasheet specifications for VR tubes are not identical for every manufacturer, but all datasheets are close enough to work from, so use whatever receiving tube technical manual that you have available, such as RCA RC-30, GE Essential Characteristics tube manual, or a Sylvania Technical tubes manual.

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NOS NIB NEW Arcturus Blue 071A tube (71-A)

Here is something that you will not see everyday, an NOS NIB NEW Globe-style Arcturus blue-glass 071A audio output tube.  Type 071A is also known as 71-A, 71A, 171A, 271A, 371A. This tube has the star-logo on the top of the glass bulb with 071A inside the star logo. Engraved base reads “ARCTURUS – No. 071A – MADE IN U.S.A.” The box has some creases and wrinkles and is missing topside lid. Tube is gorgeous.

NOS Arcturus blue-glass 071A tubeTesting the NOS Arcturus blue-glass 071A tube
If you are interested in adding this beautiful tube to your collection, feel welcome to make an offer via email. Thanks.

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when E283CC tubes are actually a 12AX7

This is one of many examples where tube testing requires experience to properly evaluate any tube.  In this situation, using a tube tester would yield a completely wrong answer.

12AX7A tubes - incorrectly factory marked as E283CC

12AX7A tubes - incorrectly factory marked as E283CC

These tubes were factory marked as E283CC, but are actually 12AX7A tubes.  Hence, if you tested them in your tube tester using E283CC settings, you would have concluded that the tubes were shorted and defective, and you would have discarded valuable NOS 12AX7A audio tubes.

The fact that these were not E283CC was readily apparent to anyone with experience.  E283CC is a “special quality version 12AX7 for audiophile” with three distinguishing characteristics: (1) different pinout than 12AX7, (2) only a 6.3v heater, (3) a shield between triode sections that terminates at pin 7.

A shield between triode sections would be easily visible, and these tubes do not have a shield.  Hence, they are not E283CC.

Since E283CC is a “special quality version of 12AX7″, that was a logical place to start.  Experience shows that they look like Amperex 12AX7A tubes, and testing them as 12AX7A verified that premise.  In fact, each tube is well balanced between its triode sections, and they are quality audiophile 12AX7A examples.  (Tube #1: Triode #1 = 36, Triode #2 = 36.   Tube #2: Triode #1 = 31, Triode #2 = 30.  Test scores from my professionally calibrated B&K 707 mutual conductance tube tester, and also without shorts or leakage.  For 12AX7, scores of 22+ good, with scores in 33 range considered typical new).

Lessons: (1) experience matters, (2) tube tester results MUST be interpreted based upon experience, and not blindly accepted as gospel, (3) you should have the experience to recognize when a tube does not look correct as marked, because blindly inserting a wrong tube into your equipment may cause serious damage and/or fireworks.

RMA Tube Numbering Code

I am frequently asked to explain what all of the “letters and numbers” mean in a vacuum tube number.  In the early days of radio, tube numbers were haphazardly assigned to new tube types.  As more vacuum tube types were developed, it became more difficult for technicians to recognize any fundamental characteristics about a tube.  To alleviate this confusion, the Radio Manufacturers Association (RMA) developed a tube numbering standard.  The standard allows a technician to have at least a basic understanding of the construction and purpose of a tube.

Notes: Early vacuum tubes with 2-digits (such as #50) and 3-digits (such as #485) predate the RMA standard.  Similarly, 4-digit industrial/commercial numbers are not part of this standard.  The standard consists of a first numeral(s), followed by a letter or two letters, a last numeral, and optionally letter suffix(es).

Also, there are tube numbers that look like they were part of the numbering standard, but in fact they were not.  An example is 2D21.

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Tube Testing & How to Use a Tube Tester

How to Use a Tube Tester… and Tube Issues (in General)

by Bob Putnak, ©2010.  All rights reserved.

Your tube tester is often the first test instrument that you reach for when diagnosing problems in tube gear.  All tube testers are a compromise in functionality, compromise in accuracy, and none are perfect.  No models test for all tube characteristics.  Not even the tube manufacturers themselves had test equipment that could detect all bad tubes, or verify all good tubes, or test for all tube characteristics.  A 100% accurate tube tester is not even possible because a tube can work excellent in one circuit and not work at all in another circuit.

Tube testers were designed as a tool for repairmen to detect “bad” tubes …tubes that could be causing a problem in the item that the technician was repairing.  Tube testers do a very good job in this role.  However, many people do not use a tube tester properly, do not interpret the results correctly, or have unreasonable expectations of them.  Other people have developed poor workflow habits that need improved.  While each tube tester has different capabilities and therefore different operating instructions, here are my thoughts regarding tubes, testing, and all tube testers in general.

Table of Contents (summary of what is discussed below):

  • Use a calibrated or professionally serviced tube tester.
  • Do not test tubes with dirty or rusty pins.
  • Tubes with multiple sections, each section must be individually tested.
  • Configure test settings before inserting the tube.
  • Adjust “Line control” both before AND after inserting tube.
  • Filament test is always the first test made.
  • Shorts Test(s) will be the second test made and must always be performed before any Emission or Gm test.
  • Leakage test will be the third test made (if Leakage test is separate from Shorts test in your tube tester).
  • The Shorts and Leakage test(s) are the most important tests you will make.
  • For any tube, there is no one “TEST SCORE” that is “right”.
  • Some tube types do NOT even have a “test score”.
  • No tube tester will tell you whether an oscillator tube will work properly in-circuit.
  • Now that you have some understanding how LIMITED the usefulness of a “test score” is, you can proceed to make your Emission/Gm test.
  • Do NOT perform the Emission or Gm test until the tube has had sufficient time to warm up.
  • Do NOT perform the Emission or Gm test for ANY LONGER TIME than necessary to get a reading.
  • Interpreting Good/Weak emission and Gm test results.
  • Repeat Shorts and Leakage tests again
  • Know YOUR tube tester
  • Noise / Microphonic tube issues

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Solid state replacement for #83 tube

I am frequently asked by B&K and Hickok owners to explain how to replace a #83 tube with a solid state version. This question is popular because #83 tubes are scare and expensive. Other benefits are increased reliability (no tube to wear down), less heat generated inside the tester case, and less load on the power transformer. So, if you want to Do-It-Yourself, I will explain how these replacements are made.

I will preface this tutorial with a few caveats: First, this procedure is easier to implement with B&K testers than Hickok testers. Hickok factored in the load that the real #83 tube has on the power transformer, and sometimes you cannot properly set the line without circuit modification. Keep this in mind if you plan to try it with your Hickok — you may be getting in over your head. Hence, substitution may be more effort than it is worth, especially when some Hickok buyers do not want the modification and would have to undo the circuit mods that were made. This leads to the second caveat: not everyone feels that the solid-state substitution works ‘excellent’ in Hickok’s. In fact, some “purists” will not even use a Hickok with a solid-state #83 replacement. They cite the fact that silicon diodes have less voltage drop than a tube rectifier, and feel that the tube test results will not be “pure.”

Personally, I always use a solid-state replacement for B&K testers. For most Hickok, I prefer to use a real #83 tube only because circuit modifications are sometimes necessary, which makes going back to a real #83 difficult for the tube tester owner or future buyer.  This problem is particularly true for the “red-case” Hickok’s.

That said, I have no disapproval with using a solid-state #83 in a Hickok model that lends itself to working well, and have found that any tube “test score” differences are trivial. In my opinion, the people who argue about small test score variations are really over-thinking the purpose of testing a tube — the end-result is NOT a test score, but to ascertain whether the tube will work satisfactory in your circuit. Common sense and practicality are important.

Here it goes…

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brown-black getter flashing does not mean ‘Used’!

Discolored getter flashing (brown or black marks) does not mean that a tube was used. This fiction is believed by both uninformed buyers and seasoned tube jockeys. This myth seems credible because some new tubes have perfect shiny mirror getter flashing; therefore the assumption is that brown or black stains in the getter flashing must indicate a used tube. The myth says that the more brown/black discoloration, the “more used” the tube is. Wrong.

Excerpt from Electronics Magazine

Excerpt from Electronics Magazine

The purpose of the tube getter and flashing is to remove gas inside the tube envelope during manufacture. This discoloration myth can be quickly debunked by reading the article in Electronics magazine, October 1950, entitled “Getter Materials For Electron Tubes”. The article explains that if the getter is vaporized very slowly during the manufacturing process, “the first barium atoms evaporated will absorb the gas present so that the remaining getter is deposited in a very high vacuum, exhibiting a shiny mirror.” If the getter was flashed very rapidly during manufacturing, then “the getter mirror will be discolored due to the dispersion of the barium.” The article then explains that the discoloration “does not mean that the getter is contaminated, but merely that the deposit is finely divided and therefore absorbs light.”

Several photos of NOS tubes below demonstrate this myth.  Likewise, I provide photos to demonstrate how the flashing looks when a tube is actually used. Let us proceed…

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Marathon MX-280 Globe tube MESH PLATE

Here is a rare tube — a Marathon MX-280 Globe #80 rectifier tube featuring MESH PLATES construction!  Not only that, but each section tests very strong Emission, comparable to an NOS #80!

Mesh Plate Marathon MX-280 Globe rectifier tube

In 18 years of collecting, I do not remember ever seeing another Mesh Plates #80 tube.  Look at that Glow!  You can see right through the Mesh Plates into the filament!  This would be a beautiful tube for any serious collector.  You could really impress your friends with this one.

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Identifying NATIONAL UNION tubes

This article provides examples of NATIONAL UNION-manufactured tubes.

NATIONAL UNION was another quality USA tube manufacturer with most production dating from 1930s to 1950s. Their production numbers were significantly smaller than the big name brands (RCA, Sylvania, GE).

The NATIONAL UNION (EIA) code number is “247″. Here is an example:

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Identifying RAYTHEON tubes

This post provides examples of Raytheon manufactured tubes.

Raytheon was an extremely high quality USA tube manufacturer with prolific output, covering both civilian issue and a vast majority of US Military parts production. The Raytheon (EIA) code number is “280″.

Here is an example:

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